Chicken or the egg!?

[AmpleSound]

Science doesn't fail or succeed.  It merely exists.  Science is knowledge, an abstract addition to sentience.  It's not capable of action, failing or succeeding being actions.

Skeletally speaking, bones mutate in a single lifetime.  SEE: Osteoporosis

That's a degenerative mutation, same as cancer.  Not at all the same.  You're talking about a mutation that just seems to have randomly occurred and taken over the species.  

Sorry forgot to quote the lyric, it's from S.C.I.E.N.C.E. by System of a Down.

[Poe]

Yeah, but Kid Rock and Gene Simmons never made a good song...

I like Kid Rock.  Not love, but like.

[Ballhawk]

Sometimes mutations just happen.  I suspect it would have more to do with altered DNA of the parent.  THAT may have to do with the environment.  But it doesn't happen in one or two generations of cross breeding.  Evolution of a complicated organism takes hundreds of thousands of years and millions upon millions of generations, each with a slightly new characteristic that gives whatever slight advantage and subsequently sticks.  If we last long enough, humans will evolve to be immune to all infection.  Thus far it's been an evolutionary race with the virus and they are capable of evolving in a single generation in a matter of minutes.  But eventually the human body will overcome all mutations of virus, unless they kill us all off first.

i am just given an example on how fast change can happen , especially if the creatures existence is at stake , they will evolve to survive .
Back to the dinosaur look at the raptor , it had feathers on it and was smaller than most and light . its not hard to see the jump to bird once the comet  hit in the gulf . They may of had to travel far for food and has to evolve . Whales once walked on land , they still have hand like bones on their fins . As the world changes so will the creatures who live on it or go extinct .

[CKFresh]

I like Kid Rock.  Not love, but like.

 

Steely Dan I can understand... At least they are good musicians with a sophisticated style and a unique sound...

Kid Rock is a disgrace, in every way.

[Poe]

Steely Dan I can understand... At least they are good musicians with a sophisticated style and a unique sound...

Kid Rock is a disgrace, in every way.

Why?

And his band is better than you think.  I like anyone who pushed the envelope and Kid Rock definitely qualifies there.  I like Eminem too.

[Poe]

The T-O-P to the D-O-G or the P-O-T to the G-O-D 

[CKFresh]

Why?

And his band is better than you think.  I like anyone who pushed the envelope and Kid Rock definitely qualifies there.  I like Eminem too.

Not sure about the envelope pushing... He seems like a weak stereotype of a "rock star" if you ask me.

Eminem is great, but Kid Rock doesn't fit into the same conversation as Eminem.

To me, Kid Rock is more or less a rip off of several rock "sounds." There is nothing original, the lyrics are laughably predictable.  It is music for lazy music fans.

This song is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with Kid Rock - a shitty "cover" of two songs, with unfortunate replacement lyrics.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/uwIGZLjugKA&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/uwIGZLjugKA&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1</a>

[Poe]

You're missing the point then.  He's not a stereotype of a rock star, he's the archetypal flamboyant trailer park kid.  There is a place for that.  It's the mix of rap, AC/DC and country.

And that song, that is my teenage years.  It's no more a cover than Looking Down The Barrel Of A Gun is a cover of Mississippi Queen.

[CKFresh]

You're missing the point then.  He's not a stereotype of a rock star, he's the archetypal flamboyant trailer park kid.  There is a place for that.  It's the mix of rap, AC/DC and country.

And that song, that is my teenage years.  It's no more a cover than Looking Down The Barrel Of A Gun is a cover of Mississippi Queen.

No, that song IS a cover. The music in the song is taken directly from "Wearwolves of London," by Warren Zevon.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/1MRu8N2K0NY&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/1MRu8N2K0NY&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1</a>

He just replaced the lyrics with some trite, feel good lyrics that could've been written by a 14 year old.

[Poe]

No, that song IS a cover. The music in the song is taken directly from "Wearwolves of London," by Warren Zevon.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/1MRu8N2K0NY&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/1MRu8N2K0NY&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1</a>

He just replaced the lyrics with some trite, feel good lyrics that could've been written by a 14 year old.

Yeah and Looking Down The Barrel Of A Gun is Mississippi Queen with The Beastie Boys replacing the lyrics.  Sampling is a theme in rap if you hadn't noticed.

[CKFresh]

Yeah and Looking Down The Barrel Of A Gun is Mississippi Queen with The Beastie Boys replacing the lyrics.  Sampling is a theme in rap if you hadn't noticed.

I'd hardly call that song "rap," nor would I call Kid Rock a "rapper." He is singing throughout that entire song. He has "rapped" in other songs, poorly....

Regardless, Kid Rock offers nothing to music, other than a good punch line.

And your statement about The Beastie Boys isn't really true. Sure, they sampled, but they did something to it. You see, with the Kid Rock song, he just got the instrumental version of the song, and pressed play. When REAL "rappers" sample, they change things a bit, often times to a point where the original song is unrecognizable.

Big difference.

[AmpleSound]

My topic went from interesting to crap... what's with the kid cock talk!?

[CKFresh]

My topic went from interesting to crap... what's with the kid cock talk!?

I believe this is "OPEN TALK forum."

 

[Poe]

I'd hardly call that song "rap," nor would I call Kid Rock a "rapper." He is singing throughout that entire song. He has "rapped" in other songs, poorly....

Regardless, Kid Rock offers nothing to music, other than a good punch line.

And your statement about The Beastie Boys isn't really true. Sure, they sampled, but they did something to it. You see, with the Kid Rock song, he just got the instrumental version of the song, and pressed play. When REAL "rappers" sample, they change things a bit, often times to a point where the original song is unrecognizable.

Big difference.

It's hardly the instrumental version of Werewolves Of London unless in the ten million times I've heard that song I missed the Sweet Home Alabama sampling.

He does definitely offer something to music.  Like I said, he's the archetypal trailer park kid with delusions of grandeur.  Americans can relate to that, that's why he's so popular.  Kid Rock is a slice of Americana.

Yeah...Kid Rock...you can call me Tex
Rollin' Sunset woman with a bottle of Becks
Seen a slimmy in a vette, rolled down my glass
And said, "Yeah this dick fits right in your ass"
No kiddin', gun slingin', spurs hittin' the floor
Call me Hoss, I'm the boss, with the sauce and the whores
No remorse for the sherrif, in his eye I ain't right
I'm gonna paint his town red... then paint his wife white UGH
Cause chaos, rock like Amadeus
Find West Coast pussy for my Detroit players
Math like mayors, ball like Lakers
They told us to leave, but bet they can't make us
Why they wanna pick on me...lock me up and snort away my key
I ain't no G, I'm just a regular failure
I ain't straight outta compton I'm straight out the trailer
Cuss like a sailor...drink like a Mick
My only words of wisdom are SUCK MY DICK
I'm flickin' my Bic up and down that coast
And Imma keep on truckin' til it falls in the ocean

Yeah, baby!

[CKFresh]

It's hardly the instrumental version of Werewolves Of London unless in the ten million times I've heard that song I missed the Sweet Home Alabama sampling.

I'm sorry, he paused the Werewolves Of London instrumental for 10 seconds, the pressed play again... 

He does definitely offer something to music.  Like I said, he's the archetypal trailer park kid with delusions of grandeur.  Americans can relate to that, that's why he's so popular.  Kid Rock is a slice of Americana.

This sounds like a Republican justifying why Sarah Palin is qualified to be president.

It's a good analogy too, because a Sarah Palin supporter is likely a Kid Rock fan...

Still, being a "piece of Americana," does nothing to make his music less shitty.