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« on: June 29, 2010, 04:42:50 PM »
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Goofs mar Palin's Reagan college tribute, legal fund appeal
           
Following in others' grand tradition of demonstrating gaps in knowledge while addressing a university, Sarah Palin told a crowd at a fundraiser at California State University in Stanislaus last weekend that Ronald Reagan, personal hero and inspiration, was a California college graduate. She told the cheering crowd: "This is Reagan country, and perhaps it was destiny that the man who went to California's Eureka College would become so woven within and interlinked to the Golden State."

There's just one problem here: Reagan went to Eureka College in Illinois from 1928 to 1932, the Alaska Dispatch reports. He didn't move to California until five years after his graduation. There's no Eureka College in California (though there's a town of Eureka that has a College of the Redwoods nearby).


Immediately after her speech, a live microphone caught voices in the press area trashing the former Alaska governor, Mediate reported. "The dumbness doesn’t just come from soundbites," one complained. The Fox affiliate owned the microphone but says their reporters did not make the comments.

Meanwhile, the Associated Press reports on a more serious recent mistake of Palin's political organization. Administrators for her legal defense fund accidentally sent out a rough draft of an email to thousands of supporters that falsely claimed she faced "millions of dollars" in legal fees because of "frivolous" ethics suits against her. The corrected version of the email said the fees numbered in the hundreds of thousands, not millions.


Critics say several more claims in the email were not true. The email said 26 of 27 ethics violations against Palin were dismissed outright, which is false: Three moved into the investigative phase. One inquiry resulted in a cash settlement; another found that ethics had been abridged but declined to recommend legal proceedings because the charge involved the dismissal of the head of the Alaska state trooper force, who was an at-will employee of the governor.

The email also alleged that the Democratic National Committee created a website whose goal is to keep Palin out of public office — a charge that the organization says is untrue.

Last week, the earlier incarnation of Palin's defense fund was ruled illegal because it used the word "official." The decision forced the fund's administrators to pay back the $400,000 in donations they raised, and to launch the newer version of the fund
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 06:33:41 PM »
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If you know of anyone who is a fan of Palin's, run, don't walk, away from them as quickly as possible.  This screechy-voiced zero is the most unqualified person ever to hold any high office.  She gives males who think women should not vote, let alone hold office, inspiration.  I'm totally at a loss to explain why anyone with more than a middle school education and at least 4 teeth, thinks she should be governor of a sparsely populated state, much less president.  I bet in a quiz between Palin and Paris Hilton, Paris would kick her ass.  Not only that, but Paris probably wouldn't be able to talk so much due to her putting things in her mouth.  If we must have a woman for president, why not Paris?  Paris has a better track record than any of the Palin women at abstinence-based birth control too. clap
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 08:30:08 PM »
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If you know of anyone who is a fan of Palin's, run, don't walk, away from them as quickly as possible.  This screechy-voiced zero is the most unqualified person ever to hold any high office.  She gives males who think women should not vote, let alone hold office, inspiration.  I'm totally at a loss to explain why anyone with more than a middle school education and at least 4 teeth, thinks she should be governor of a sparsely populated state, much less president.  I bet in a quiz between Palin and Paris Hilton, Paris would kick her ass.  Not only that, but Paris probably wouldn't be able to talk so much due to her putting things in her mouth.  If we must have a woman for president, why not Paris?  Paris has a better track record than any of the Palin women at abstinence-based birth control too. clap

She held a high office?  She was the governor of Alaska.  What that means is she beat out the other 47 college graduates who live in the state.
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2010, 09:18:54 PM »
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She was speaking at Cal State University. What I find ironic is thier motto in the back-round of the pic----

"VOX"-"VERITAS"-"VITA" ...This translates to; "VOICE-TRUTH-LIFE" and is known to the Students and Faculty to mean -- "Speak the Truth as a way of Life".  laughinghard

Too funny.

Aside...being Governor of Alaska only means you have to be able to figure and distribute the oil profits fairly to the residents.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2010, 09:26:02 PM »
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She was speaking at Cal State University. What I find ironic is thier motto in the back-round of the pic----

"VOX"-"VERITAS"-"VITA" ...This translates to; "VOICE-TRUTH-LIFE" and is known to the Students and Faculty to mean -- "Speak the Truth as a way of Life".  laughinghard

Too funny.

Aside...being Governor of Alaska only means you have to be able to figure and distribute the oil profits fairly to the residents.

The story could have been funnier if the reporter picked-up on the Motto and tied it into the story.

(Also note that the State Trooper stuff is about 3 years old.)
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2010, 10:35:45 AM »
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I wonder if Palin thinks Reagan was a communist... You know, considering that the tax system was more progressive under Reagan than it is under the current "marxist" in office now.
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2010, 06:39:25 PM »
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I wonder if Palin thinks Reagan was a communist... You know, considering that the tax system was more progressive under Reagan than it is under the current "marxist" in office now.

What "Marxist" are you speaking of?....Obama?...I don't understand. Palin is not in any office.

So you now hate Obama?...clue me in because your 'position' is cloudy.
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2010, 06:51:21 PM »
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I wonder if Palin thinks Reagan was a communist... You know, considering that the tax system was more progressive under Reagan than it is under the current "marxist" in office now.

So by your commentary...you consider Obama a "Marxist"

Interesting....What happened to all your Idealism about Obama?...have you changed your mind?...tell us why?...did he 'sell-you-out'?...mislead you?.

What happened?
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2010, 10:49:58 PM »
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I think CKFresh was attempting to represent Palin's views rather than his own. Jumped the gun there, Rivers.

I would not be surprised, however, if he were disenchanted with the President. There are tons of Obama voters regretting their decision.

I'm not saying the alternative would have been better; I don't know that. But I don't think McCain would have needed 6 months to decide Afghanistan needed more troops. He wouldn't have sent back the Churchill bust or regaled England with some incompatible DVDs and a freakin iPod. He could also be expected to know a little more than Obama and Holder about Arizona's immigration situation.
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2010, 05:48:25 AM »
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You're never going to get a US President that can please everyone. There's just too many sides to every story and not enough time to work on every idea from the candidates political agenda. When you read information on specific people on the internet you should check multiple sources to verify the authenticity. Do a little background checking before jumping to conclusions because most are fabricated opinions used to sway people's opinions.

There's wasn't much Obama could do with a wrecked economy and a military spread around the middle east but ride out the storm. He is chipping away at the issues and mounting up for another big run at President. This is just the calm before the storm. Don't think Obama is done just because he isn't pushing his political agenda through the media or campaigning across the States. He can easily amass multitudes of followers again because in reality he is an intelligent, highly informed and deeply caring US citizen. There's not many people like him in the country.
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2010, 07:37:19 AM »
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You're never going to get a US President that can please everyone. There's just too many sides to every story and not enough time to work on every idea from the candidates political agenda. When you read information on specific people on the internet you should check multiple sources to verify the authenticity. Do a little background checking before jumping to conclusions because most are fabricated opinions used to sway people's opinions.

There's wasn't much Obama could do with a wrecked economy and a military spread around the middle east but ride out the storm. He is chipping away at the issues and mounting up for another big run at President. This is just the calm before the storm. Don't think Obama is done just because he isn't pushing his political agenda through the media or campaigning across the States. He can easily amass multitudes of followers again because in reality he is an intelligent, highly informed and deeply caring US citizen. There's not many people like him in the country.
Well said 501!  I'm not the biggest fan of what Obama has done so far, at least not the priorities he's addressed, but I agree with him "chipping away at what needs to be done".  The only disappointment for me so far is job creation.  Healthcare reform has been batted-around since the Eisnehower administration, but nobody had the balls until now to act on it.  Financial reforms too.  I'm quite tired of hearing the right complain about immigration problems, yet what did their heroes do while they were in office?  I have never seen any president have to handle as much dirty tricks and propaganda as has Obama.....most of it untrue. 
We are now starting to hear all the people running for the governor and Congress this Fall.  I'm already sick of their ads.  "If elected, I'll repeal Obamacare, or I'll stop Obama's Marxist policies".  Just look at the states that have elected the most fervent anti-Obama reps.  Ky, Ala, SC, etc.  These states have almost total Republican representation and are some of the most backward, trouble-prone, and poor states.  As long as Obama is is in office, they can blame it all on him.  If Obama is not re-elected, who will they blame?
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2010, 08:20:25 AM »
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So by your commentary...you consider Obama a "Marxist"

Interesting....What happened to all your Idealism about Obama?...have you changed your mind?...tell us why?...did he 'sell-you-out'?...mislead you?.

What happened?

 laughinghard

You really are dumb as a rock...

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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2010, 08:52:58 AM »
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I think CKFresh was attempting to represent Palin's views rather than his own. Jumped the gun there, Rivers.

I would not be surprised, however, if he were disenchanted with the President. There are tons of Obama voters regretting their decision.

I'm not saying the alternative would have been better; I don't know that. But I don't think McCain would have needed 6 months to decide Afghanistan needed more troops. He wouldn't have sent back the Churchill bust or regaled England with some incompatible DVDs and a freakin iPod. He could also be expected to know a little more than Obama and Holder about Arizona's immigration situation.

I'm not disenchanted at all.  I voted for Hillary and voiced a strong opinion about that matter to anyone who would listen.  The Democratic party was deaf to me and all the others warning of exactly what is happening.  He doesn't have the gravitas to hold the position.  So he has to sell out liberal ideals to get votes in a congress that has little respect for him.  It's President Carter all over again.

That said, a McDonald's happy meal would make a better president than John McCain so I don't regret my vote - not even a little.
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2010, 12:05:31 PM »
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 But I don't think McCain would have needed 6 months to decide Afghanistan needed more troops.  He could also be expected to know a little more than Obama and Holder about Arizona's immigration situation.
I'm quite happy that Obama deliberated sending more troops to Afghanistan.  That was a refreshing change to the ill-conceived and poorly executed policies of the preceding administration.  How many dead soldiers and Marines would be alive today had we not rushed into Iraq due to those "WMDs"?  There is no reason for jumping to assumptions, rushing into adding troops, or changing anything without good advice, intel, and deliberation.  You know, like disbanding the Iraqi army without thought of what it would mean to do so.  Or, pulling the majority of troops out of Afghanistan, where it was proven to have terrorists, to bolster the folly in Iraq.  Obama is wise enough to avoid the ignorance of Bush/Chaney.
As for McCain knowing about Arizona's immigration situation, please tell us what McCain has done as the senior Senator of that state to help?  What bills has he introduced?  I submit to you that he is part of the problem, not the solution to Arizona's situation.  He is bad-mouthing Obama as he does nothing but receive campaign contributions from the largest users and exploiters of illegal labor-agricultural interests, poultry farmers and processors, and all the other large users of cheap labor.  The man has the spine of a jellyfish and the mouth of a pit bull.  I lost all respect for him when he rolled-over and played dead while Bush's attack dogs smeared him in 2000.  His first wife waited for him while he was a POW, and he abandoned her for Cindy.  Can you imagine the rancor in the Republican party if that had been Obama?  Nothing will be done about illegal immigration until those benefitting from it are exposed and prosecuted.  The citizens of Arizona may be against the illegals, but McCain and his base are happy with it.  They just want to blame the black dude in the White House.
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2010, 09:13:07 PM »
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You're never going to get a US President that can please everyone. There's just too many sides to every story and not enough time to work on every idea from the candidates political agenda. When you read information on specific people on the internet you should check multiple sources to verify the authenticity. Do a little background checking before jumping to conclusions because most are fabricated opinions used to sway people's opinions.
Agree. Was this directed at me?

There's wasn't much Obama could do with a wrecked economy and a military spread around the middle east but ride out the storm. He is chipping away at the issues and mounting up for another big run at President. This is just the calm before the storm. Don't think Obama is done just because he isn't pushing his political agenda through the media or campaigning across the States. He can easily amass multitudes of followers again because in reality he is an intelligent, highly informed and deeply caring US citizen. There's not many people like him in the country.
Disagree. The President's not even good at pretending to be any of those things. He's less of a diplomat than Bush. He is a good campaigner so I wouldn't be surprised if he does manage to amass the multitudes again, especially if the Repubs run a mediocre candidate.

I'm not disenchanted at all.  I voted for Hillary and voiced a strong opinion about that matter to anyone who would listen.  The Democratic party was deaf to me and all the others warning of exactly what is happening.  He doesn't have the gravitas to hold the position.  So he has to sell out liberal ideals to get votes in a congress that has little respect for him.  It's President Carter all over again.

That said, a McDonald's happy meal would make a better president than John McCain so I don't regret my vote - not even a little.
You voted for Clinton in the primary or as a write-in? Either way I wouldn't count you as a disenchanted Obama voter if you were never enchanted with him in the first place. So he's exactly what you expected?

I think enchanted is an apt adjective for many of his voters. When the general opinion on election day was "Obama will save the world from Bush in his first 100 days", it's hard to live up to expectations.

I'm quite happy that Obama deliberated sending more troops to Afghanistan.  That was a refreshing change to the ill-conceived and poorly executed policies of the preceding administration.  How many dead soldiers and Marines would be alive today had we not rushed into Iraq due to those "WMDs"?  There is no reason for jumping to assumptions, rushing into adding troops, or changing anything without good advice, intel, and deliberation.  You know, like disbanding the Iraqi army without thought of what it would mean to do so.  Or, pulling the majority of troops out of Afghanistan, where it was proven to have terrorists, to bolster the folly in Iraq.  Obama is wise enough to avoid the ignorance of Bush/Chaney.
As for McCain knowing about Arizona's immigration situation, please tell us what McCain has done as the senior Senator of that state to help?  What bills has he introduced?  I submit to you that he is part of the problem, not the solution to Arizona's situation.  He is bad-mouthing Obama as he does nothing but receive campaign contributions from the largest users and exploiters of illegal labor-agricultural interests, poultry farmers and processors, and all the other large users of cheap labor.  The man has the spine of a jellyfish and the mouth of a pit bull.  I lost all respect for him when he rolled-over and played dead while Bush's attack dogs smeared him in 2000.  His first wife waited for him while he was a POW, and he abandoned her for Cindy.  Can you imagine the rancor in the Republican party if that had been Obama?  Nothing will be done about illegal immigration until those benefiting from it are exposed and prosecuted.  The citizens of Arizona may be against the illegals, but McCain and his base are happy with it.  They just want to blame the black dude in the White House.
There's a difference between deliberation and indecisiveness. You're a vet right? What's the difference between reinforcements now and 6 months from now?
Bush didn't just decide the Iraqi Army would be disbanded; they surrendered to us en masse. They wouldn't fight our traditional military if we paid them. Also, our intelligence suggested that Hussein had the weapons. Other countries believed the same way. John Kerry believed it. There was no amount of deliberation that would have brought about a clearer picture of what was going on inside Saddam's borders. Whether he was able to ship the weapons out before we got there, or never had them in the first place, is unknown.
Losing soldiers is tragic, and it is caused as much by poor decisions as by a lack of a decision.

McCain would not have denounced the law, which is a clearly positive step in the enforcement of immigration law, as unconstitutional. Especially without reading it first. McCain's base is the citizens of Arizona.
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