Are republicans stupid or evil?

[Poe]

That's the question, isn't it?  Do they mean harm or are they just too stupid to realize what is obvious?  There isn't another position that I can see.

Look, liberal financial theory isn't really all that difficult.  It's basically 'Robin Hood economics,' you rob from the rich and give to the poor.  This philosophy has the obvious advantage of PR.  Everyone wants to help the poor, even if it means at the expense of the rich.  But it's also sound financial policy.

The rich tend to hoard their money, the poor tend to spend with reckless abandon.  The rich tend to invest their monies in safe securities while the poor take their's to Wal-Mart and Banana Republic which is good for the economy.  Raise wages, raise spending, it's not rocket science.

Now I hear Glenn Beck telling everyone to invest in gold.  What that does is stagnate the economy.  He wants to stagnate the economy to make Barack Obama look bad at the expense of the country, of the futures of our children.  Is this not evil?  He tells these already paranoid, partially delusional people that listen to him -- the end of the world is nearing and they should stockpile in bomb shelters.  Is this not evil?

I cannot see how people who are sane, rational and honestly mean well could support a party who promotes this type of behavior.  Republicanism has run it's course.  It's time to put it to an end once and for all.

[Ballhawk]

i am done with party business , none of them will take on the immigration issue or the poor standards of the education system , this they get paid by attendance and not how they score on the SAT,s is bullshit . none of them will take on business that hire illegals .
i am an indépendant and that's were i stay , i will not vote for the lesser of the two evils . i will vote for who i feel is the right person no matter what the odds are . voting for the lesser of the two evils is just putting another bad leader in office .

the only vote i wish a had back was the one i did not give Al.Gore , i just did not believe his message and wish he would of won . I would vote for him now , he has been proactive since his loss .

[Ballhawk]

he was so right about the problems with fossil fuels and green house gas . He saw this coming over 8 years ago and only now are we saying , Houston we has a problem .

Poe Robin Hood is a fairy tale for a reason. It sounds good and we wish that merely giving to the oppressed would relieve their oppressed status. Unfortunately, we are faulted people and not literary creations, and those theories will never work for us.

Further, the President does not need Glenn Beck to make him look bad. He accomplishes it on his own on a daily basis.

[Poe]

Poe Robin Hood is a fairy tale for a reason. It sounds good and we wish that merely giving to the oppressed would relieve their oppressed status. Unfortunately, we are faulted people and not literary creations, and those theories will never work for us.

Further, the President does not need Glenn Beck to make him look bad. He accomplishes it on his own on a daily basis.

I didn't say it would alleviate their oppression.  I specifically said they spend with reckless abandon which is good for the economy.  Giving to the poor is good PR.  But as a demographic the poor will always be the poor.  The names and faces shift around but they are simply a fact of existence.  But when you give them money they spend it.  And there's a lot of them.  If the bailout had been divvied up among the poor we'd be in fine shape right now.

[501]

How about selfish and short sighted. I think if we taxed on income without deductions for a year we might see the playing field start to level out. I don't see how people who earn hundreds of thousands a year can get away with coming out even on their tax returns. I guess accountants get paid to rip off their own country.

I also don't see the light anymore when I listen to conservative radio programs. Strong opinions meant to grab at people's emotions.

James Carville says Louisiana is dying down there and Obama should get his butt down there and at least act like he cares. Obama needs to get his team together and start coming up with some ideas. Let's go!
First of all, when you have a extremely high pressured force with one outlet, such as the broken well head, it is nearly impossible to contain. Has anyone had a plumbing pipe burst? How would you fix it without cutting off the water? While you're thinking about that add that it's 5000 feet under water with a pressure 100 times that of your home. There's many ways you can stop the flow but how do you stop the flow without exploding the well head? YOU CAN'T! There is so much oil down there that it is nothing like we have ever tried to restrain. You blow up that head and it's all coming out.

Another conservative talk show says Obama messed the whole operation up by disallowing BP to burn off the the oil. I don't even know how to take this seriously. We're going to burn a nearly endless supply of oil up? How long would that burn? What would the environmental impacts be?

The only thing our country can do is restrict the flow, suck up as much as we can from the top, add known chemical agents that are approved by the EPA, spray as much bio-chemicals to neutralize the oil and clean up the shores and marshlands. Isn't that what we're doing down there?

The moment that pipe ruptured was the moment the Gulf Coastal areas were fucked. It's too fucking late. We are lucky to have only lost 11 men's lives over this and lucky to have the technology to start a cleanup process. Fisherman's livelihood's may be at stake and probably doomed, the environment and wildlife hurting but they will be repaired in time.

What should Obama do with this mess? I think we should help with the clean up efforts at BP's expense. Is that what we're doing already?

Glen Beck should run for office along with Limbaugh. Show us all how intelligent and patriotic you really are without millions of dollars from talk radio.

[Poe]

I would love if they'd win a seat somewhere.  They'd be a lot less effective then.

I made 140k one year (long story).  I paid 22k in federal income tax.  It was 1998.  People told me that I could have done some things to get it much lower.  I told them it was going to a good cause.  You should have seen the looks I got.  It's incredible to think those looks came from the same people who wave the flag in everyone's face and say my people are destroying the country.  I really wish they would just leave and make their own country if they think they know so much better.

[501]

Put them both in Virginia. There's so many counties down here they could win. They could both win a district. Then they could get assassinated, that would be gross, maybe they should just take one district.

I know alot of people who have worked their way into the upper tax brackets and are simply disgusted at the amount of money they have to pay out in taxes every year. On top of that, Uncle Sam wants to make them pay their 20% on their income. That's $20-$40 thousand! Who could afford to live if they had to pay that much in taxes a year? So they figure out they can pay an accountant about 5% of their income to tell them where to put their money so they come out even and sometimes they get money back! Imagine that!

Too bad an accountant would charge me 15 to 20 percent of my income!  That's not fair!

Poe you're one in a million to actually pay your taxes! That's pretty big of you. 

[Poe]

Put them both in Virginia. There's so many counties down here they could win. They could both win a district. Then they could get assassinated, that would be gross, maybe they should just take one district.

I know alot of people who have worked their way into the upper tax brackets and are simply disgusted at the amount of money they have to pay out in taxes every year. On top of that, Uncle Sam wants to make them pay their 20% on their income. That's $20-$40 thousand! Who could afford to live if they had to pay that much in taxes a year? So they figure out they can pay an accountant about 5% of their income to tell them where to put their money so they come out even and sometimes they get money back! Imagine that!

Too bad an accountant would charge me 15 to 20 percent of my income!  That's not fair!

Poe you're one in a million to actually pay your taxes! That's pretty big of you. 

It was one year, I don't make that much.  Hell, back then I made crap.  I got a 92k settlement from the federal government over wages they had cheated out of my dad who had already passed away by then.  It was an 'easy come, easy go' situation.

But.....if I made that much I would pay my fair share.  I make around 70k and I pay my share, though I have three kids so I get some pretty incredible tax breaks.  The federal government is still subsidizing overpopulation. 

[RIVERS]

The answer is simple.

Flat tax on goods purchased, not income.

[RIVERS]

The answer is simple.

Flat tax on goods purchased, not income.

Fair, equitable, and no more 'dodging' or hiding income.

Too simple for folks to comprehend I guess.

[RIVERS]

Fair, equitable, and no more 'dodging' or hiding income.

Too simple for folks to comprehend I guess.

What is odd is that a 'pay as you buy' tax rate is used in many/most Countries through-out the World.

I say it the most fair system of taxation.

It is also the best way to force Honesty...you buy?, you pay a tax.  Screw this current system of deductions, cheating, and under the table money.

The solution is in front of our face.

[RIVERS]

It was one year, I don't make that much.  Hell, back then I made crap.  I got a 92k settlement from the federal government over wages they had cheated out of my dad who had already passed away by then.  It was an 'easy come, easy go' situation.

But.....if I made that much I would pay my fair share.  I make around 70k and I pay my share, though I have three kids so I get some pretty incredible tax breaks.  The federal government is still subsidizing overpopulation. 

It's bad form to complain about paying a large tax bill.

[RIVERS]

i am done with party business , none of them will take on the immigration issue or the poor standards of the education system , this they get paid by attendance and not how they score on the SAT,s is bullshit . none of them will take on business that hire illegals .
i am an indépendant and that's were i stay , i will not vote for the lesser of the two evils . i will vote for who i feel is the right person no matter what the odds are . voting for the lesser of the two evils is just putting another bad leader in office .

the only vote i wish a had back was the one i did not give Al.Gore , i just did not believe his message and wish he would of won . I would vote for him now , he has been proactive since his loss .

You didn't vote for Al Gore?...why not.


He was talking down to 'Ballhawk'?....Kidding, I guess.

I know folks who voted against him because they thought he was 'boring'....frustrating.  

[Ballhawk]

You didn't vote for Al Gore?...why not.


He was talking down to 'Ballhawk'?....Kidding, I guess.

I know folks who voted against him because they thought he was 'boring'....frustrating.  

to tell you the truth , i did not think fossil flues at that time was a problem .I was brain washed into believing into another message .