Tea Party

[navigator17]

Any thought on this movement?

 Can American Political landscape support 3 viable Political parties?...

[501]

I think it would be a huge loss of votes for Republicans.

Their views on government spending are pretty unreasonable considering the economic landscape.

I haven't really studied the movement other than news clips.

[navigator17]

I just wonder if it could gain any direct or indirect traction on a possible third party in politics...whether or not it is called the "tea Party" or not..

..is America... and Americans becoming so disillusioned in the same old..two party system of "you get what we give you" that a third party has a chance of being viable?

[CKFresh]

Ideally, we could have more than two viable political parties in this country. Unfortunately, with a single member district system, two parties will rule supreme. Just look at the history of 3rd parties in this country.

Until we change the system, third parties are doomed to fail in the end.

Specifically, the "Tea Party" is really just the base of the republican party. I know that "polls indicate otherwise," but let's be real - these are conservatives that will vote republican when it comes down to it.

Furthermore, this movement isn't as big as the media would like you to think. A large portion of Americans "identify" with the tea party movement, but how many people are show up to these rallies? In reality, view few. In DC there were about 1,000 people. As Ed Rendel said, I could call a rally to protect puppies and attract more people.

In short, the Tea Party is nothing more than a "fad," and something for the media to talk about.


And I know that people always dismiss this idea, but let's face it, racism plays a part here. Not all "teabaggers" are racists, but you better believe there is an element of racism for many of these folks.

[navigator17]

 Hence my question of whether a viable 3 party could exist? the last third party of any note was the "Bull Moose" party of Roosevelt in what, 1912(?) or so

The more people "identify" with this movement the easier it will be to solidify a possible platform

I don't know if racism is more or less in this movement then the two parties we have now

[Rick]

[I'm not saying they are all like that, but the ones I know are]

I agree with Fresh.  Most of the Tea Partiers are people who are Republicans that don't feel their party is far enough to the right to please them.  They are against everything that might cause them to pay more taxes.  They are people who will follow anyone who speaks a few talking points that they identify with.  They want nothing if they have to pay for it.  Be it Healthcare, Education, infrastructure, whatever.  They want to stay like they are, and don't want any government involvement in their lives.  All the people I know who are Tea Baggers are racists, anti-environmentalists, survivalists, apt to be in militia-type groups, etc.  I'm not saying they are all like that, but the ones I know are.

[RIVERS]

 Hence my question of whether a viable 3 party could exist? the last third party of any note was the "Bull Moose" party of Roosevelt in what, 1912(?) or so

The more people "identify" with this movement the easier it will be to solidify a possible platform

I don't know if racism is more or less in this movement then the two parties we have now

I think it's more likely now than any time in History.

Look, the current President was elected through the use of the Internet and Social Media.

Regardless of what you think of him?...he was a 'nothing' when compared to politicians from day's past.

An experienced State Senator captured the prize.

It's not that difficult really.

[Poe]

 Hence my question of whether a viable 3 party could exist? the last third party of any note was the "Bull Moose" party of Roosevelt in what, 1912(?) or so

The more people "identify" with this movement the easier it will be to solidify a possible platform

I don't know if racism is more or less in this movement then the two parties we have now

Well....I'd say the last third party of any note was/is the Republican party.  It can be done, it's been done before.  I haven't seen any Whigs, Federalists or Democratic Republicans on any ballots lately (though is all fairness, the current Democratic party is really just the Democratic Republicans renamed).

You're certainly not going to be able to do it with either a pop culture reference for a name (Green Party) or an historical reference (Tea Party).  It's going to have to be a movement that is creative, fresh, innovative, inventive, arrogant and audacious.  You gotta swing some Kohonas to be running against a party nearly 100 years your elder and refer to yourselves as the 'Grand Old Party'.  That's the kind of necessary audacity that inspires the confidence of voters.

You can't beg for votes (Libertarian Party) or run on the notion of splintering the votes of existing parties (Green and Reformed parties).  A successful third party would have to inspire voters and fill them with confidence that a new plan that will change the country for the better is coming if you vote for them.

The downside is it would, as it always has, run one of the two existing parties out.  I'm ok with that at the moment because it would be the Republican Party being run out.  However, i wouldn't have been ok with that 10 years ago.  But I'm not really worried about that.  Fringe liberals are too god damned stupid to be a threat to my party.

[RIVERS]

Well....I'd say the last third party of any note was/is the Republican party.  It can be done, it's been done before.  I haven't seen any Whigs, Federalists or Democratic Republicans on any ballots lately (though is all fairness, the current Democratic party is really just the Democratic Republicans renamed).

You're certainly not going to be able to do it with either a pop culture reference for a name (Green Party) or an historical reference (Tea Party).  It's going to have to be a movement that is creative, fresh, innovative, inventive, arrogant and audacious.  You gotta swing some Kohonas to be running against a party nearly 100 years your elder and refer to yourselves as the 'Grand Old Party'.  That's the kind of necessary audacity that inspires the confidence of voters.

You can't beg for votes (Libertarian Party) or run on the notion of splintering the votes of existing parties (Green and Reformed parties).  A successful third party would have to inspire voters and fill them with confidence that a new plan that will change the country for the better is coming if you vote for them.

The downside is it would, as it always has, run one of the two existing parties out.  I'm ok with that at the moment because it would be the Republican Party being run out.  However, i wouldn't have been ok with that 10 years ago.  But I'm not really worried about that.  Fringe liberals are too god damned stupid to be a threat to my party.

Your a 'klutz' as it pertains to politics, and how things work.

I'm sick and tiered of slamming you...your  not that smart...and you have about as much to offer as Ck 'Copy and Paste'

[RIVERS]

Your a 'klutz' as it pertains to politics, and how things work.

I'm sick and tiered of slamming you...your  not that smart...and you have about as much to offer as Ck 'Copy and Paste'

OH gosh wait...what you should do?---post "Liar" about 30 times in a row. That would be a flashlight as to your intelligence.

Go for it.

[Poe]

Your a 'klutz' as it pertains to politics, and how things work.

I'm sick and tiered of slamming you...your  not that smart...and you have about as much to offer as Ck 'Copy and Paste'

 I.... yeah...  Wow!  I'm legible.  At least I have that going for me which is obviously more than can be said for you.

[RIVERS]

 I.... yeah...  Wow!  I'm legible.  At least I have that going for me which is obviously more than can be said for you.

I'm glad your legible...I'm sorry your a freakin' fool.

[Poe]

OH gosh wait...what you should do?---post "Liar" about 30 times in a row. That would be a flashlight as to your intelligence.

Go for it.

 So you ready to post that data you said you would gladly post?

No, of course not.  Just more Rivers' nonsense.  One more drip in the sea of your stupidity and childishness.  You're 26 now, it's time you stopped making silly claims like a self righteous teenager.  But you won't, will you?  You'll just keep being the same adorable moron.

So you keep on calling me an idiot all the while showing your third grade grammar and spelling.  Is that stupidity or laziness?  Probably a little of both, I guess.  

You're good for a laugh, Rivers.  I'll give you that.

[Poe]

I'm glad your legible...I'm sorry your a freakin' fool.

I'm not arguing with you any more.  Have a great night.

[RIVERS]

 I.... yeah...  Wow!  I'm legible.  At least I have that going for me which is obviously more than can be said for you.

Good for you Man...you have 'legiblity'...wow. That's about all you have.

Pretty sad actually.