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« on: March 30, 2010, 01:43:31 PM »
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By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer Philip Elliott, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON – Finalizing two major pieces of his agenda, President Barack Obama on Tuesday sealed his health care overhaul and made the government the primary lender to students by cutting banks out of the process.

Both domestic priorities came in one bill, pushed through by Democrats in the House and Senate and signed into law by a beaming president.

The new law makes a series of changes to the massive health insurance reform bill that he signed into law with even greater fanfare last week. Those fixes included removing some specials deals that had angered the public and providing more money for poorer and middle-income individuals and families to help them buy health insurance.

But during an appearance at a community college in suburban Virginia, he emphasized the overshadowed part of the bill: education.

In this final piece of health reform, Democrats added in a restructuring of the way the government handles loans affecting millions of students.

The law strips banks of their role as middlemen in federal student loans and puts the government in charge. The president said that change would save more than $60 billion over the next 10 years, which in turn would be used to boost Pell Grants for students and reinvest in community colleges.

"I didn't stand with the banks and the financial industries in this fight — that's not why I came to Washington — and neither did any of the members of Congress who are here today," Obama said to a supportive crowd at Northern Virginia Community College. "We stood with you. We stood with America's students."

Private lenders still will make student loans that are not backed by the government, and they still will have contracts to service some federal loans. But the change reflected in the new law represents a significant loss in what has been a $70 billion business for the banking industry.

Among many other features, the new law is expected to make it easier for some college graduates to repay loans.

The government will essentially guarantee that workers in low-paying jobs will be able to reduce their payments. Current law caps monthly payments at 15 percent of these workers' incomes; the new law will lower the cap to 10 percent.

About half of undergraduates receive federal student aid and about 8.5 million students are going to college with the help of Pell Grants.

Obama was effusive in his praise for the lawmakers who stood by him on the health care and education legislation. Many of them face tough sells in their home districts over the massive health care legislation, a complex mix of crackdowns on the insurance industry, coverage expansions and insurance mandates.

He was introduced by Dr. Jill Biden, the vice president's wife, who teaches English there.
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 01:49:39 PM »
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I personally know what it's like to be denied full coverage health insurance at normal rates because of pre-existing conditions. It's comforting to know that my probleam is realized by my president. Obama has put his political life on the line for his health care reform bill. This completely satisfies me and I hope he continues down the road of progress.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 04:16:05 PM »
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What a major slam dunk.  He passes a healthcare bill and finally punishes banks for tearing the world's economy to shreds.  Good job, Barack.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 09:35:18 PM »
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Good for you Americans (I think).  Just remember, you still have to keep socialism in check.  Take this from a Canadian who experiences this every day. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 10:26:17 PM »
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I personally know what it's like to be denied full coverage health insurance at normal rates because of pre-existing conditions. It's comforting to know that my probleam is realized by my president. Obama has put his political life on the line for his health care reform bill. This completely satisfies me and I hope he continues down the road of progress.

I know you have lived heart-ache of a loved one who has been denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition. That was not fair...and I am happy for your familey.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2010, 10:43:18 PM »
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I know you have lived heart-ache of a loved one who has been denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition. That was not fair...and I am happy for your familey.

Living. I am uncovered. If I got sick it's over for me. It's a scary world.

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 10:59:04 PM »
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Living. I am uncovered. If I got sick it's over for me. It's a scary world.



Sorry to hear that. 

Americans (generalizing, I know, sorry) seem to love talking about their freedom, but I wonder how many Americans stay with their present jobs simply because they have medical benefits?   Here, you can quit your job and search for another (or start your own business), and you have no need to worry about not being covered.  In this respect, I'd say socialized health care allows more freedom.  It's never simply a black and white issue as so many argue. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 11:10:25 PM »
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Sorry to hear that. 

Americans (generalizing, I know, sorry) seem to love talking about their freedom, but I wonder how many Americans stay with their present jobs simply because they have medical benefits?   Here, you can quit your job and search for another (or start your own business), and you have no need to worry about not being covered.  In this respect, I'd say socialized health care allows more freedom.  It's never simply a black and white issue as so many argue. 

That's so true. I've even considered lower paying jobs for health care. It's not cheap you know.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2010, 11:20:47 PM »
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That's so true. I've even considered lower paying jobs for health care. It's not cheap you know.

That's one of the negatives up here.  People (myself included) are completely unaware now of how much health care costs.  There's a growing sense of entitlement that exceeds common sense.  People take up space in emergency rooms when all they have is a simple flu. 

When they first started it here, they had a certain amount come off every paycheck, so people could see how much they were putting in for their provincial health benefits.  Then, for some reason, they abolished that idea and hid the amounts.  Of course, we're still paying, but the amounts are hidden amongst the taxes. 
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2010, 11:25:31 PM »
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That's one of the negatives up here.  People (myself included) are completely unaware now of how much health care costs.  There's a growing sense of entitlement that exceeds common sense.  People take up space in emergency rooms when all they have is a simple flu. 

When they first started it here, they had a certain amount come off every paycheck, so people could see how much they were putting in for their provincial health benefits.  Then, for some reason, they abolished that idea and hid the amounts.  Of course, we're still paying, but the amounts are hidden amongst the taxes. 

I guess you would have some idea of how expensive it can be. 

The ER isn't fun. They tend to exagerate on the bill. Preventetive care is much cheaper in the long run.
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2010, 11:35:43 PM »
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I've been lucky.  Only had to go to ER twice in my life...both hockey related. 
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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2010, 11:42:57 PM »
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That's one of the negatives up here.  People (myself included) are completely unaware now of how much health care costs.  There's a growing sense of entitlement that exceeds common sense.  People take up space in emergency rooms when all they have is a simple flu. 

When they first started it here, they had a certain amount come off every paycheck, so people could see how much they were putting in for their provincial health benefits.  Then, for some reason, they abolished that idea and hid the amounts.  Of course, we're still paying, but the amounts are hidden amongst the taxes. 

That's the problem I have with this legislation, it never address the ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. The rising cost of health care. Now I'm happy that folks with with pre-existing conditions MIGHT be covered, i have a problem with the fact it gives 'carte-blanch' to insurers and doctors to continue to costs as they see fit.

It does nothing to save on COSTS, in fact, it will encourage hospitals and insurers to spend even more.

I agree that folks with Platinum care ' (such as myself) have been a drain on the system due to advertised 'designer-drugs' and such.

I' very disappointed that we didn't address the real problem of health care in America, we didn't address costs and how simple it would be for those cost to be lowered.

Booooooooo

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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2010, 11:48:55 PM »
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I've been lucky.  Only had to go to ER twice in my life...both hockey related. 


My brother dropped me on the edge of a pool in Toronto once... (bunch of stitches) no cost. I guess I owe you a few bucks
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2010, 11:53:40 PM »
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My brother dropped me on the edge of a pool in Toronto once... (bunch of stitches) no cost. I guess I owe you a few bucks

This explains so much. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2010, 12:00:44 AM »
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This explains so much. 
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Shud-up'..lol. I hurt my leg....not my head.
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